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KathyInAR

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I have vowed to not speak to anything political or controversial on Facebook; however, I did see where someone was attempting to either be funny or to indicate the concern over COVID-19 being "overblown" without using those words exactly.

The post showed that the current number (percentages of the total population and suggesting it was an opportunity to learn about percentage) of reported cases and deaths compared to our population is minuscule (which is true up to this point) and I totally agree, it is a great opportunity to learn about percentages. I just could resist offering the first lesson in percentages.

In one week, the number of reported cases increased from approximately 4,500 to 26,000 (this was the number provided by the poster) which is an increase of about 580%. So, if the 26,000 number increases by 580% in the next week it becomes 150,800 cases, then at the end of the 2nd week there will be 874,640 cases, and then by the end of the 3d week the count is up to 5,072,912, and after 4 weeks (approximately a month) there would be nearly 29.5 million cases--which is approximately 9% of our population after only a month. Then, after the first week of the 2nd month the number of cases jump up to 171.1 million cases, almost 52% of our population. Yup, percentages do have a way of putting things into perspective.

And remember this is just reported cases...if we ever get the capability for wide spread testing, this number is likely to increase by many, many, many more percentage points. And while there will be people who are infected but will not get sick or very sick and who will recover from the illness, it will not only drain resources; but, many of those will be left with disabling and severally damaged lungs with way less than 100% lung capacity.
 

KathyInAR

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Bill Gates is not only computer software genius, he predicted a COVID-19 type virus outbreak in 2015.

 

KathyInAR

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I hate to be so dumb, but why are people lining up and buying guns?
Who knows, maybe to guard their stash of 1,000 rolls of toilet paper.

I am sure some would say it is because their fear marshal law being declared; or that they expect people to go nuts and they’ll have to protect themselves. And I imagine some are just because they can under the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights.
 
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sundealer

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About the percentages. Wish CNN had shown how many have been tested. Also how many have recovered. Although this number most likely won't be accurate as many sent home to 'self isolate' aren't tracked.
It would have been nice had they shown the number for influenza too! Don't forget those who are old or health impaired are dying everyday from this too!
 

KathyInAR

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I have vowed to not speak to anything political or controversial on Facebook; however, I did see where someone was attempting to either be funny or to indicate the concern over COVID-19 being "overblown" without using those words exactly.

The post showed that the current number (percentages of the total population and suggesting it was an opportunity to learn about percentage) of reported cases and deaths compared to our population is minuscule (which is true up to this point) and I totally agree, it is a great opportunity to learn about percentages. I just could resist offering the first lesson in percentages.

In one week, the number of reported cases increased from approximately 4,500 to 26,000 (this was the number provided by the poster) which is an increase of about 580%. So, if the 26,000 number increases by 580% in the next week it becomes 150,800 cases, then at the end of the 2nd week there will be 874,640 cases, and then by the end of the 3d week the count is up to 5,072,912, and after 4 weeks (approximately a month) there would be nearly 29.5 million cases--which is approximately 9% of our population after only a month. Then, after the first week of the 2nd month the number of cases jump up to 171.1 million cases, almost 52% of our population. Yup, percentages do have a way of putting things into perspective.

And remember this is just reported cases...if we ever get the capability for wide spread testing, this number is likely to increase by many, many, many more percentage points. And while there will be people who are infected but will not get sick or very sick and who will recover from the illness, it will not only drain resources; but, many of those will be left with disabling and severally damaged lungs with way less than 100% lung capacity.
As of a few minutes ago, it was reported that we have 32,000 cases in the United States. I expect that it is spreading faster that 580% and as testing/result times increase and get better we are going to see more like >700% per week spread rates.
 

KathyInAR

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About the percentages. Wish CNN had shown how many have been tested. Also how many have recovered. Although this number most likely won't be accurate as many sent home to 'self isolate' aren't tracked.
It would have been nice had they shown the number for influenza too! Don't forget those who are old or health impaired are dying everyday from this too!
 

KathyInAR

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Stumpy McDugal

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I was hoping this COVI-19 thread wouldn't turn political, but it has. As all of you are aware, I abhor politics and do not participate.

I ask you to please police/edit your posts. No politics.
 

KathyInAR

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Here is another graph showing just how fast the virus spreads...this was as of March 13, just 3 days ago and there were 2,179 reported cases.

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And then, on today March 16th, and the day is not over, there is just 7 shy of 4,100 confirmed cases.

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Of all these cases, how many people do you suppose they came into contact with over the past 2 weeks and then those people came into contact with...and on and on and on? There could literally be millions of people who are incubating the virus who are not yet symptomatic, or are but haven yet sought medical care. Remember only a very small percentage of people have been tested, so that no indication of how many people are carrying the virus around in their bodies.

There is a woman here in Conway who said that her adult daughter has all the symptoms and she was told she would not be tested because there is an extreme shortage of available testing equipment and she has not been exposed to anyone who has tested positive—what the hell kind of crap is that? She could have been exposed to a hundred people who are positive but not sick. If everyone has not been tested there is no way to know if she was exposed. That is stupid thinking. She was tested for the regular flu, streptococcus and was negative. She has a fever of 102 - 103 degrees, a sore throat and hacking cough.
Sometime on March 13th it was announced that there were 2,179 reported cases of COVID-19 in the United States; then this morning on March 24th (10-11 days later) it was announced that there are 46,600 reported cases. NEARLY A 2,150% INCREASE!!! Can’t help but wonder how many cases there really are in this country. If that rate continues for the next 10/11 days we are looking at well over MILLION cases.

Has it been determined how long the virus can be spread by a person who tests positive but does not develop any symptoms and become sick? Does it remain dormant with the ability to rear its ugly head later? So many questions and I fear so much still unknown.
 

ROOT

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Please keep Napmaster in your prayers, he's on the front lines at Halifax and has lost a quarter of a lung to scar tissue with our close call 2 years ago. he's a nervous wreck, not only is he handling his job, he's had to take one his old bosses job for the last year and frankly not being compensated for 2 hats nor being paid overtime.
 

ROOT

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I don't think that their policy of not allowing employees to clock out is legal, and I can't get him to leave at 8 hrs like the system is supposed to he's there an average of 12 to 14. And G damn it. He should not be worried about flushing toilets and sitting in the dark to save money on water and electricity. Adding to the stress.
 

KathyInAR

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Please keep Napmaster in your prayers, he's on the front lines at Halifax and has lost a quarter of a lung to scar tissue with our close call 2 years ago. he's a nervous wreck, not only is he handling his job, he's had to take one his old bosses job for the last year and frankly not being compensated for 2 hats nor being paid overtime.
I absolutely will and I can only imagine how much this frightens you and him and all those who love him. I don't understand the not getting overtime, especially if he is paid an hourly wage rather than in salaried management position.
 

KathyInAR

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Are We Americans really this frigging stupid? How many cases do we have to have before we get a clue?

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KathyInAR

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In only a very few hours things change, now...


The New York Times
The U.S. Now Leads the World in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases


Donald G. McNeil Jr. 2 hrs ago​
Why??? The U.S. is the third most populated country in the world exceeded by China and India and they each have more than a billion (that's 1 +9 zeros!) more people in their countries.

And our cases are not slowing down, they are escalating on a daily basis.
 

sundealer

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And we have done more testing than either of those countries!!
So yes we are showing more cases!!

Positive does not mean automatic deaths.
 

KathyInAR

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Sometime on March 13th it was announced that there were 2,179 reported cases of COVID-19 in the United States; then this morning on March 24th (10-11 days later) it was announced that there are 46,600 reported cases. NEARLY A 2,150% INCREASE!!! Can’t help but wonder how many cases there really are in this country. If that rate continues for the next 10/11 days we are looking at well over MILLION cases.

Has it been determined how long the virus can be spread by a person who tests positive but does not develop any symptoms and become sick? Does it remain dormant with the ability to rear its ugly head later? So many questions and I fear so much still unknown.
Now, in the past 2-3 days (not even 3 full days from sometime on March 24th till sometime on March 27th ), the number of reported cases has approximately doubled from 46,600 to 94,000...are we looking at 188,000 cases before the end of the month?
 

sundealer

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The first cases emerged after the ship made a port call in Vietnam in early March, despite warnings that the virus was likely to sweep through the Asia-Pacific region.

Sailors left the ship for receptions, sports competitions and other events.
Sounds like the Captain f'd up.
 

sundealer

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And the article has nothing to do with politics.
It has to do with the simple fact they were warned. Did not heed the warning and the crew became infected.
 

sundealer

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No Do Not Stay Home!!
Avoid contact with other people!!!
Get out and go for a run or walk around the block.
Go rake your yard or get your garden ready.
Go for a long drive.
Or just sit on the stoop/porch/driveway.
Do not lock yourself in the house!!
JUST STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE!!

Staying in the house biting your nails will just lead to depression. Even if you do have underlying health problems, there's no reason not to get out or open the windows.
 

KathyInAR

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No Do Not Stay Home!!
Avoid contact with other people!!!
Get out and go for a run or walk around the block.
Go rake your yard or get your garden ready.
Go for a long drive.
Or just sit on the stoop/porch/driveway.
Do not lock yourself in the house!!
JUST STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE!!

Staying in the house biting your nails will just lead to depression. Even if you do have underlying health problems, there's no reason not to get out or open the windows.
Most of the things you listed would be considered “staying home”...your back yard, your porch, stoop & driveway, the neighborhood sidewalks, and some states recognize your car as an extension of your home (gun laws).

Keep well.
 
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