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New ‘R.I.P.’ bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper’

TailTeaser

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New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

A newly developed bullet from G2 Research is being billed as the last round a gun owner will ever need: a smashing hunk of copper with full metal jacket power to shred through solid objects and stop attackers in their tracks.
G2R, the Windsor, Ga., company that created the Radically Invasive Projectile, or R.I.P., says the bullet is like a full metal jacket when it strikes and is designed “to take out all your vital organs.”
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[HR][/HR]“I wanted to create a round that would work well against a home intruder,” company president Cliff Brown told the Blaze. “There were so many stories out there about a woman trying to defend her home and having to shoot someone five or six times and they d still come after her. We wanted to create an effective one-shot man-stopper.”
The bullet is made with trocar angles — edges with three angles that lead into a single point — which enable it cut through an object s layers with greater speed and efficiency than other forms of ammunition, according to the company s website.
“It is capable of going through barriers such as sheet rock, plywood, sheet metal or glass and still performs its original intent,” the site claims. “The bullet shreds through solid objects and only then, expands its energy.”
The benefit of expanding bullets is that they cut down on the risk of ricocheting.
So far, the R.I.P. bullet has generated a lot of buzz, Mr. Brown said. The company showcased the bullet at the Las Vegas Shot Show earlier this month and posted reaction on its website.
“We went around and talked to several vendors and it knocked their socks off,” Mr. Brown told the Blaze.
G2R officials said they tested the bullet in a range of automatic and semi-automatic weapons, as well as in rifles, with zero failures.
The bullet will not penetrate level 3A body armor, though, which Mr. Brown said is by design to protect law enforcement officials.



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Stumpy McDugal

Cracker OG
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Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

Reminds me of the Black Talons that were 'banned' in the early 90's.

 

ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

[h=1]All nine bystanders wounded in Empire State shooting hit by police[/h]The shooting was a rare example of the drawbacks posed by so-called hollow-point bullets. The New York Police Department started using those 14 years ago to reduce the likelihood of hitting bystanders, even though in this case the use of such bullets may have resulted in the opposite effect.
The bullets have become standard issue for many law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, as a replacement for traditional bullets that can pass right through a suspect.
They are considered safer for bystanders because hollow-point bullets are designed to mushroom when they strike a person. They cause massive injuries, but rarely exit.
However, the hollow-point bullets are more prone to fragment or ricochet when they hit a hard object such as the concrete planters used at the popular tourist attraction as security barriers against terrorist attacks, studies show.
Six of the nine bystanders wounded on Friday were hit by shrapnel caused when the hollow bullets fragmented as they ricocheted off the planters, and three by bullets, police said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/27/us-usa-shooting-empirestate-police-idUSBRE87Q04X20120827
 

Fastcar

Well-known member
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

A newly developed bullet from G2 Research is being billed as the last round a gun owner will ever need: a smashing hunk of copper with full metal jacket power to shred through solid objects and stop attackers in their tracks.
G2R, the Windsor, Ga., company that created the Radically Invasive Projectile, or R.I.P., says the bullet is like a full metal jacket when it strikes and is designed “to take out all your vital organs.”
[HR][/HR]PHOTOS: Top 10 handguns in the U.S.
[HR][/HR]“I wanted to create a round that would work well against a home intruder,” company president Cliff Brown told the Blaze. “There were so many stories out there about a woman trying to defend her home and having to shoot someone five or six times and they’d still come after her. We wanted to create an effective one-shot man-stopper.”
The bullet is made with trocar angles — edges with three angles that lead into a single point — which enable it cut through an object’s layers with greater speed and efficiency than other forms of ammunition, according to the company’s website.
“It is capable of going through barriers such as sheet rock, plywood, sheet metal or glass and still performs its original intent,” the site claims. “The bullet shreds through solid objects and only then, expands its energy.”
The benefit of expanding bullets is that they cut down on the risk of ricocheting.
So far, the R.I.P. bullet has generated a lot of buzz, Mr. Brown said. The company showcased the bullet at the Las Vegas Shot Show earlier this month and posted reaction on its website.
“We went around and talked to several vendors and it knocked their socks off,” Mr. Brown told the Blaze.
G2R officials said they tested the bullet in a range of automatic and semi-automatic weapons, as well as in rifles, with zero failures.
The bullet will not penetrate level 3A body armor, though, which Mr. Brown said is by design to protect law enforcement officials.



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They say this just fine for home defense. Then they say it will go through sheetrock, plywood, things your walls interior and exterior are made of. In a confrontation bullets are all over the place. Your kids in the next room maybe your neighbor, everybody is in danger.

I'm still of the belief that a 380 in the hands of a person who knows what they are doing is big enough to get the job done indoors with small chance of collateral injuries. Perhaps a 22 long would do the same.
 

Itchey

Googlemeister
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

There are many many variables involved..From the gun manufacturer right down to the type of primer used when loading the bullet.
I watched the video of the RIP bullet and to be honest I have some very serious doubts about it. The high speed camera shows the bullet disintegrating within milliseconds of hitting a gel block, which can be good, and bad at the same time. It showed one of the fleshettes (angles as they called them) breaking through and upward upon the initial impact, this in reality is now shrapnel which could easily injure anyone in the vicinity of its exit.

As for a .380 being a proper choice for a home defense weapon, I disagree with it's selection for that use.
Ballisticlly the .380 is a very "soft" weapon. A real world example I will give you is this....

A reserve officer of SJSO years ago ran into a money situation and he was carrying a .38 special "Tauris" brand revolver.
(All officers were required to furnish their own handguns at that time and automatics were forbidden for safety reasons)

He was on duty, when 3 bank robbers approached him in a speeding car. He fired 6 rounds of Remington Peters .38 special rounds into the windshield of a 1977ish Chevrolet mid size car. ( I think it was 4 door Nova to be exact but not sure).....
NONE of the rounds penetrated the front windshield of the car...NOT ONE of the 6 hits!
Luckily he lived, and the bank robbers were caught.

Afterward I was involved with the Departments Head Armorer and the person who did the actually purchasing for the department.
After numerous tests courtesy of a local junkyard here is what the bottom line boiled down to....
The Ammo was fine however a reliability factor as it regards to penetration was noted among firearm manufacturers.
Bottom line the decision was made as follows...
For a revolver the Smith & Wesson and the Dan Wesson, along with Colt & also Ruger Arms, were 4 mfg's that provided consistency between
all of their models in the 2, 4, and 6" barrel lengths.
For the ammunition a semi jacketed hollow point bullet between 125 grain and 225 grain were chosen with MFG's allowed from Remington, CCI Speer (my favorite), Federal as acceptable choices, all in either +p or .357 magnum loads, Special Loads were not acceptable.
I want to note here that a .380 auto is a much smaller case than a .38 revolver load and just does not have the ballistic "power" to "STOP" a determined person within reason, yes it will cause bleeding and can be fatal, yes the sound made certainly tells the other person that a gun is being fired, however at the end of the day when these situations are decided in split seconds not minutes, your choice must be clear and effective.

I really advocate a 12 gauge pump shotgun for home defense..First round #6 bird shot, then followed by Buckshot and then by slugs.
Part of the allure of the pump shotgun is the noise made by the action...It say's No, Quit, Stop, and I mean it!!, all in a fraction of a second is is universally understood by men and animals alike.
 
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ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

Agreed that sound is better than a warning shot
 

Fastcar

Well-known member
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

There are many many variables involved..From the gun manufacturer right down to the type of primer used when loading the bullet.
I watched the video of the RIP bullet and to be honest I have some very serious doubts about it. The high speed camera shows the bullet disintegrating within milliseconds of hitting a gel block, which can be good, and bad at the same time. It showed one of the fleshettes (angles as they called them) breaking through and upward upon the initial impact, this in reality is now shrapnel which could easily injure anyone in the vicinity of its exit.

As for a .380 being a proper choice for a home defense weapon, I disagree with it's selection for that use.
Ballisticlly the .380 is a very "soft" weapon. A real world example I will give you is this....

A reserve officer of SJSO years ago ran into a money situation and he was carrying a .38 special "Tauris" brand revolver.
(All officers were required to furnish their own handguns at that time and automatics were forbidden for safety reasons)

He was on duty, when 3 bank robbers approached him in a speeding car. He fired 6 rounds of Remington Peters .38 special rounds into the windshield of a 1977ish Chevrolet mid size car. ( I think it was 4 door Nova to be exact but not sure).....
NONE of the rounds penetrated the front windshield of the car...NOT ONE of the 6 hits!
Luckily he lived, and the bank robbers were caught.

Afterward I was involved with the Departments Head Armorer and the person who did the actually purchasing for the department.
After numerous tests courtesy of a local junkyard here is what the bottom line boiled down to....
The Ammo was fine however a reliability factor as it regards to penetration was noted among firearm manufacturers.
Bottom line the decision was made as follows...
For a revolver the Smith & Wesson and the Dan Wesson, along with Colt & also Ruger Arms, were 4 mfg's that provided consistency between
all of their models in the 2, 4, and 6" barrel lengths.
For the ammunition a semi jacketed hollow point bullet between 125 grain and 225 grain were chosen with MFG's allowed from Remington, CCI Speer (my favorite), Federal as acceptable choices, all in either +p or .357 magnum loads, Special Loads were not acceptable.
I want to note here that a .380 auto is a much smaller case than a .38 revolver load and just does not have the ballistic "power" to "STOP" a determined person within reason, yes it will cause bleeding and can be fatal, yes the sound made certainly tells the other person that a gun is being fired, however at the end of the day when these situations are decided in split seconds not minutes, your choice must be clear and effective.

I really advocate a 12 guage pump shotgun for home defense..First round #6 bird shot, then followed by Buckshot and then by slugs.
Part of the allure of the pump shotgun is the noise made by the action...It say's No, Quit, Stop, and I mean it!!, all in a fraction of a second is is universally understood by men and animals alike.
Guess it is different strokes for different folks on this.

A couple of things imo. A shotgun is large and unwieldy and you have to go get it unless you sleep with it. Racking it tells whoever is in your home where you are. I like the element of surprise. Numerous experts have gone on-line to debunk the racking myth. Also in the heat of the moment you are into slugs real quick. Don't like the idea of them flying around.

I'll stay with my 380 Ruger with Hornaday Critical Defense 90 grain hollow points for the load. As you say things happen in split seconds. I will have rounds down range while you are getting and racking that shotgun.

Oh, one other consideration. 0200 you hear something, you get up, grab the shotgun, you see a shadow at the end of the hallway, as you rack and fire a family member who you didn't know was up comes into the hall from the bathroom or bedroom. Not a good thing when a load of shot is filling the hall.
 

ROOT

Administrator
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Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

Oh, one other consideration. 0200 you hear something, you get up, grab the shotgun, you see a shadow at the end of the hallway, as you rack and fire a family member who you didn't know was up comes into the hall from the bathroom or bedroom. Not a good thing when a load of shot is filling the hall.
Well this situation violates a primary rule that you absolutely never shoot at something you can not identify like shadows.
 

Fastcar

Well-known member
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

Well this situation violates a primary rule that you absolutely never shoot at something you can not identify like shadows.
No, the family member unexpectedly came out of a bathroom or bedroom and entered the hall between the person with the shotgun and the shaowdy figure (thebadguy) at the end of the hall.
 

VietnamVet

Army Cracker
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

Anytime a weapon is used there is a distinct possibility of "friendly Fire" killing someone you know and love. Taking on the responsibility of owning a weapon that is designed to kill human beings is never to be taken lightly. I often hear jokes about this. Not real jokes but stressed humor to defuse the thought of harming someone you know. There are stories all over that tell of children killed when a projectile penetrates walls and travels off property onto your neighbor's property and into their child's bedroom.

The best trained people are those who have used deadly force to halt an intruder or those who have used deadly force in a combat situation and have first hand seen the carnage and violence of using that force. Something dies inside you that can never be replaced. I do not care if the one who dies is the worst criminal to ever walk this earth. Sane people feel deeply traumatized physically and mentally. Many never recover and they live lives of solitude and depression.

There are as many ways to tell someone what they should have done after the fact. There are but a few ways before the fact. The problem is that humans have the "Fight or flight" naturally occurring chemical adrenalin and when confronted in a situation where you may be staring death in the face no two people will "see it" the same way. Nor will two Juries!

Self defense using the new high power loads with hollow point bullets can and do go way past where they need to stop. These "new" rounds with their many little "Spears" of material moving in a star burst pattern work well if you hit a human being dead center of gross mass. To the left or right and you will have little projectiles seeking other targets you did not wish to shoot.

There is no way to teach someone and have them comply with that training during a fight or flight situation.

I do believe the best home defense weapon is the shotgun.

What is the best? Good luck with trying to get the experts to agree on that!
http://www.besttacticalshotgun.com/

Here is some information that says the best home self defense weapon is not a 12ga shotgun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM2eFb-XAuU

You be the judge! After all it is you that will face the Jury and Judge! Good luck....
 

Fastcar

Well-known member
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

I agree with you in part V V. At times it is hard to dig your way out of the "fog of war" and you don't want to revisit it. I guess I'm more comfortable with a dt than I am blasting away with a alley cleaner.

Everybody should go with what they are comfortable with and more importantly what they are damn well proficient with. You are truly dealing with life and death in these situations and believe me it is a heavy burden if you squeeze the trigger.
 

VietnamVet

Army Cracker
Re: New ‘R.I.P. bullet hailed as ‘one-shot man-stopper

20 rounds of .9mm will cost you $44.95 + shipping charge, sent directly to your front door.

Where to buy? Several places, some sold out already.
The maker says you can get it here:
Sgammo.com
Ammunitiondepot.com Currently Sold out will receive a shipment every month
Ammunitiontogo.com Currently Sold out will receive a shipment every month
Firequest.com


$44.95 http://sgammo.com/product/surplus/coming-soon-20-round-box-9mm-rip-g2-hollow-point-ammo

$47.95 and on sale for $44.00, but they are out http://www.ammunitiondepot.com/RIP-9MM-Ammo-p/g2rip9.htm

Not listed yet! http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=G2+Hollow+point+ammo&x=12&y=8

Cannot find it here! Firequest.com
 
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