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Question Robocalls

WVaKay

Well-known member
I have periodically been getting a robocalls from my bank - first asking if I am - hubby'first name and then my area code and I start getting suspicious. It mentions that there has been
a change in my bank account and at that point, I hang up. Does this sound like a scam?
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
I have periodically been getting a robocalls from my bank - first asking if I am - hubby'first name and then my area code and I start getting suspicious. It mentions that there has been
a change in my bank account and at that point, I hang up. Does this sound like a scam?
Call the bank and tell them about this...it does sound suspicious. They can tell you if is it a genuine call from them or not.
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
Since it is a robo call, click on whatever number it says to touch to speak to a human...then ask for a number to call them back because you have company right now...if they give you a number, confirm it is good and then report them to the authorities and the "do not call" list folks. But, absolutely don't give them any info or just simply hang up or if you know it is them beforehand, don't answer.
 

WVaKay

Well-known member
Lately, when the phone rings and I say hello and if I don't get a very quick response, I hang up.
 

WVaKay

Well-known member
EveryBody is getting pestered with nuisance calls. Now if I don't recognize the number, or they don't leave a message, I just let it ring. I do have caller ID.
 

ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
i am very unlikley to answer if i don't reconise the number and if i do to stop it ringing I just hang up if it says hold for or sounds the remotely like an auto call. then I add it to the rejected caller list . I got rid of the land line because it rang so much from crap .
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
I use an app called, I don't answer idiot calls or numbers I don't recognize. It works great!! :cool_1:
 

sundealer

Founder
Like most of you, if I don't recognize the number I don't answer. I have voice mail so they are more than welcome to leave a message.
I tell everyone that if you don't how do you expect me to know you called.
My land line is forwarded to my cell.
If I get a call more than twice in one day with no message, it goes to the reject/block list.
Plus I've been saving them for Morgan & Morgan to collect $1500 per call.
 

Fastcar

Supporting member
I have been using RoboKiller for about 3 weeks. Was getting 20+ calls a day, yesterday no calls got through. I'm real happy with it. ymmv
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
Just yesterday I reported, to the do not call folks, the number from whence a recorded voice mail message was left—it was the one about “social security administration is about to start legal proceedings...call this number” and it was the same number as shown on the caller ID. However, I do get calls from purported banks concerning a credit cards which are fraudulent/scams calls and the actual number shown in the caller ID is the real bank’s number, but the call is not from them. Also, many of the calls show local numbers that are not the numbers from where the call is placed. I ignore most of them, but I have gotten to where I recognize the bank numbers and just answer them and immediately hang up to stop the blasted ringing.

A while back, I answered one of those as I recognize the number being Chase Bank and got the recorded “this is Alice...press 1” ...I wanted to see if I could get a real number to report them as “they” call nearly everyday and sometimes several times a day...so, I pressed 1 and when this heavily accented voice came on, I interrupted and said I was very interested however I was in a hurry out the door so would he give me a number so I could call him back later. The heavily accented voice proceeded to call me the obscene c-word. It doesn’t do any good to block those numbers (I did) because that is not the actual number that the call is made from.

Between the fraudulent calls concerning credit cards and extended auto warranties, I generally get 4-6 calls daily.
 

Fastcar

Supporting member
I don't want to be bothered/distracted having to look at the phone every time it rings with a robocall. I might miss a fish. Speaking of fish, Pompano's were in the surf the past couple of days along with Blues.
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
I have been using RoboKiller for about 3 weeks. Was getting 20+ calls a day, yesterday no calls got through. I'm real happy with it. ymmv
I am going to look into that...does it work in both land/cable lines and cell phones? My only concern would be blocking robo calls from the local emergency/notification numbers that are actually helpful but might be worthwhile to stop them to stop the others. Other calls I hate are the ones trying to solicit the purchases of braces and get Medicare to pay for them...ugg!
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
Just yesterday I reported, to the do not call folks, the number from whence a recorded voice mail message was left—it was the one about “social security administration is about to start legal proceedings...call this number” and it was the same number as shown on the caller ID. However, I do get calls from purported banks concerning a credit cards which are fraudulent/scams calls and the actual number shown in the caller ID is the real bank’s number, but the call is not from them. Also, many of the calls show local numbers that are not the numbers from where the call is placed. I ignore most of them, but I have gotten to where I recognize the bank numbers and just answer them and immediately hang up to stop the blasted ringing.

A while back, I answered one of those as I recognize the number being Chase Bank and got the recorded “this is Alice...press 1” ...I wanted to see if I could get a real number to report them as “they” call nearly everyday and sometimes several times a day...so, I pressed 1 and when this heavily accented voice came on, I interrupted and said I was very interested however I was in a hurry out the door so would he give me a number so I could call him back later. The heavily accented voice proceeded to call me the obscene c-word. It doesn’t do any good to block those numbers (I did) because that is not the actual number that the call is made from.

Between the fraudulent calls concerning credit cards and extended auto warranties, I generally get 4-6 calls daily.
#1<> The DO NOT CALL REGISTRY is a scam and does not work! At least for very long anyway. It's too much work for them to block a number to your number. There's really no regulation.... I bet you still have operators sitting around plugging and unplugging all them 1/4" phone plugs into that wall in front of them LOL..

#2 <> NEVER press any number the recording says because the robo call is checking to see if it's a currently used number. They don't know a number is currently in use UNLESS that number responds, and in this case, with you PRESSING #1. NOW they know it's a GOOD number and you will now be bothered with their constant calling because when you responded and confirmed, they logged it into their robo calling machine .......... LOL!!! IF you didn't respond, it get's tossed into their non use trash can and never call that number again........

And who has LAND LINES anymore???? Crap! That's like CABLE, and who has that anymore? :lmao2:


 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
#1<> The DO NOT CALL REGISTRY is a scam and does not work! At least for very long anyway. It's too much work for them to block a number to your number. There's really no regulation.... I bet you still have operators sitting around plugging and unplugging all them 1/4" phone plugs into that wall in front of them LOL.. If you don't understand how a program or something else operates/works/etc. it is advisable that you find out before making statements, especially when they are derogatory. The National Do Not Call Registry is a government program and is not a scam and it does work how it was designed to work. However, since a great number of these annoying calls come from overseas, they have no jurisdiction over those. The legitimate telemarketers mostly do adhere to people's requests to not be called. Here is some info so that you can learn what the National Do Not Call Registry is all about, what it does, what limitations are lawfully placed on them, etc.:

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0108-national-do-not-call-registry


#2 <> NEVER press any number the recording says because the robo call is checking to see if it's a currently used number. They don't know a number is currently in use UNLESS that number responds, and in this case, with you PRESSING #1. NOW they know it's a GOOD number and you will now be bothered with their constant calling because when you responded and confirmed, they logged it into their robo calling machine .......... LOL!!! IF you didn't respond, it get's tossed into their non use trash can and never call that number again........ Again this info is not exactly accurate, it does not go near far enough. I repeatedly get calls, without having ever answered or pressed any #,

And who has LAND LINES anymore???? Crap! That's like CABLE, and who has that anymore? :lmao2: What a stupid comment you just made and then laughing about it...idiotic! Some of us are fortunate enough to have both and can easily afford both, and being how the American flag still flies (between my house and my neighbors--he put it up on the property line after asking me if it was okay with me and it is his, but, I so enjoy it and saw it just this morning when I left home at 7 a.m. to go feed my DIL's critters), I have the right to buy, subscribe or have any and all the things my heart desires. For some, it must really be hard and difficult to have such an inferiority complex that the only way to make one feel better about themselves is to try and make others look bad, stupid, or whatever trait in themselves they are are trying to mask. I will pray for them. Oh, and BTW I remember when living in Louisiana and whenever we'd get hit by a damaging (especially Katrina and Rita that were both extremely damaging and within a month of each other) cells towers were knocked down or otherwise damaged so badly that cell service was interrupted and the only way to connect with others was through landlines or satellite phones. I will purchase all the telephone lines and cable service I want, and haven't asked either your permission or advise and you'd do well to pay more attention to what is going on with yourself and not worry your little head about what I do.
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I have the right to have both a landline (actually it is cable, but nearly the same--it's a house phone) and a cell phone. I also have the right to have cable TV service, Netflix, hulu, Amazon Prime and any other form of legal entertainment I wish. So, no one needs to waste any energy worrying about that which they have no responsibility for or right to decide for me.
 

WVaKay

Well-known member
I don't want to be bothered/distracted having to look at the phone every time it rings with a robocall. I might miss a fish. Speaking of fish, Pompano's were in the surf the past couple of days along with Blues.
On the other hand, getting up out of the chair and walking to your caller ID is good exercise. Sitting is the new smoking.
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
no one needs to waste any energy worrying
Oh believe me, I wasted no energy what so ever and I actually enjoyed posting facts and helping others by providing what ever tips I may have, I even keep a few up my sleeve from time to time for such emergencies....... I'm always glad to help out...I would never switch attention to myself like some do. It's about helping others....... Carry on....... OH and btw, IF that is an important call, they OR your family will leave a message. Stop playing musical phone...YOU will know by the message if it's for real or not and if you don't answer the message cause you're just not sure or if you don't recognize the voice and it is legit, they will send you paper mail or e-mail also... I can't believe we still have paper snail mail or that AOL crap.....LOL....... Now you can carry on.... :cool_1:
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
On the other hand, getting up out of the chair and walking to your caller ID is good exercise. Sitting is the new smoking.
Exactly!!! There's too much laziness in this world to not be concerned if a family member might be in trouble and have an emergency!!! The lazy people just keep sitting and gaining weight and that leads to bad health!! I agree!!! And for those who are that lazy, there's this think call cordless or wireless phones that now go everywhere you do ......:lmao2:
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
Oh believe me, I wasted no energy what so ever and I actually enjoyed posting facts and helping others by providing what ever tips I may have, I even keep a few up my sleeve from time to time for such emergencies....... I'm always glad to help out...I would never switch attention to myself like some do. It's about helping others....... Carry on....... OH and btw, IF that is an important call, they OR your family will leave a message. Stop playing musical phone...YOU will know by the message if it's for real or not and if you don't answer the message cause you're just not sure or if you don't recognize the voice and it is legit, they will send you paper mail or e-mail also... I can't believe we still have paper snail mail or that AOL crap.....LOL....... Now you can carry on.... :cool_1:
Then it become incumbent (necessary as a duty or responsibility) on you knowing that the information that you are giving is accurate and helpful. E.g., calling the National Do Not Call Registry a scam is totally inaccurate and spreads bad information. You can't believe that we still have "paper snail mail" or AOL? Why, are you stupid? Without "paper snail mail" how would I get the title for my new car?
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
Then it become incumbent (necessary as a duty or responsibility) on you knowing that the information that you are giving is accurate and helpful. E.g., calling the National Do Not Call Registry a scam is totally inaccurate.......
I SAID>>> in translation now>> DO NOT CALL is a farce!!!!!!!!! It doesn't work!!!!! It's a waste of time..I've said it as plain as I can.... Entender???
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
My, my, my...this is what happens when people actually report these calls to the National Do Not Call Registry... I gets these types of calls monthly...I go online and file a report at the National Do Not Call Registry. While they may not be exempt from calling, they aren't exempt from not committing fraud or taking advantage of people or the system. Just another responsibility of the Do Not Call Registry...a place to report such calls.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/04/10/feds-break-up-dollar12-billion-medicare-brace-scam/23709154/
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
My, my, my...this is what happens when people actually report these calls to the National Do Not Call Registry... I gets these types of calls monthly...I go online and file a report at the National Do Not Call Registry. While they may be exempt from calling, they aren't exempt from committing fraud or taking advantage of people or the system. Just another responsibility of the Do Not Call Registry...a place to report such calls.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/04/10/feds-break-up-dollar12-billion-medicare-brace-scam/23709154/
Well goods for you!!! At leasts one person has the time to do this( even though it don't works)!!! I gets the idea you may be making a dents in your received fraud call base! Keep up the great works! OMG! There's a slow mo AOL article again LOL!!!!!! Now there's one items have no time for, sitting arounds waiting for an AOL dinosaur article to open after a half hour commercial to end!! :peace_hippy_cut:
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
I SAID>>> in translation now>> DO NOT CALL is a farce!!!!!!!!! It doesn't work!!!!! It's a waste of time..I've said it as plain as I can.... Entender???
You have earned ...

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You said as "plain" as day...it was "a scam."

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Now, I'm done "playing" with you today, it is too easy and I'm quickly bored.
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
Well goods for you!!! At leasts one person has the time to do this( even though it don't works)!!! I gets the idea you may be making a dents in your received fraud call base! Keep up the great works! OMG! There's a slow mo AOL article again LOL!!!!!! Now there's one items have no time for, sitting arounds waiting for an AOL dinosaur article to open after a half hour commercial to end!! :peace_hippy_cut:
Before I leave you for the day, once again it is incumbent on me to point out your errors...while the article I posted was brought to you by AOL, such as paperboy might bring you a newspaper or Fox News might bring you a story not originating in their studio or by their reporter or you might buy a TIME magazine at Wally World , it is an AP (Associated Press) story and would be found on a multitude of different websites. Pay attention, learn something...and for gawd's sake get a faster internet service and or computer if it takes forever to open up for you...it opens immediately for me, and no commercial.
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
You said as "plain" as day...it was "a scam."
Lest we forget, I also said 'plain' as day that it was a FARCE also. Not FART, I said FARCE!!! And "IT DOES NOT WORK" ....And I'm now bored too and off to play Chess. Have a nice day. :cool_1:
 

Fastcar

Supporting member
On the other hand, getting up out of the chair and walking to your caller ID is good exercise. Sitting is the new smoking.
Hey!! Ya think I need exercise? Well, your right and a hell of a lot more than getting up and answering a phone will provide. So, it's still a distraction and I might trip over a beach chair trying to answer it. lol
 

Jeffrey

CaptainAmerica
Hey!! Ya think I need exercise? Well, your right and a hell of a lot more than getting up and answering a phone will provide. So, it's still a distraction and I might trip over a beach chair trying to answer it. lol
Those belong in your closet when not in use, not in your living room. Studios are quite small and I do understand some situations but SAFETY FIRST!!!
 

Fastcar

Supporting member
Before I leave you for the day, once again it is incumbent on me to point out your errors...while the article I posted was brought to you by AOL, such as paperboy might bring you a newspaper or Fox News might bring you a story not originating in their studio or by their reporter or you might buy a TIME magazine at Wally World , it is an AP (Associated Press) story and would be found on a multitude of different websites. Pay attention, learn something...and for gawd's sake get a faster internet service and or computer if it takes forever to open up for you...it opens immediately for me, and no commercial.
You finally quoted KB. I was wondering wth you were talking about. He just won't learn and needs to be spanked every so often.
 

ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
#1 The National Do Not Call Registry is a government program and is not a scam and it does work how it was designed to work.
#2 I repeatedly get calls, without having ever answered or pressed any #,

a landline (actually it is cable, but nearly the same--it's a house phone
for some reason those two statements seem at odds, I used the DNCR religiously for every call I got over a year and still had to turn it off because it rang incessantly . IMHO it is inefectuail and was a pacifying program Politicians put together to answer Complaints. I can see it being thought of as a scam cause people ask to not be called and still receive calls regularly.
Yes they do sometimes come in pairs, the robocall dials till it gets an answer that matches things that indicate a live person is at a valid number. Then that validated number goes to a live operator who makes the second call, saving a lot of labor time.
Turning off the landline worked very very good
a landline (actually it is cable, but nearly the same--it's a house phone
Might look the same but definitely not at all like ma bell's wired self powered phone grid on the simple and reliable tech end.
 

KathyInAR

Founder
Staff member
for some reason those two statements seem at odds, I used the DNCR religiously for every call I got over a year and still had to turn it off because it rang incessantly . IMHO it is inefectuail and was a pacifying program Politicians put together to answer Complaints. I can see it being thought of as a scam cause people ask to not be called and still receive calls regularly.
Yes they do sometimes come in pairs, the robocall dials till it gets an answer that matches things that indicate a live person is at a valid number. Then that validated number goes to a live operator who makes the second call, saving a lot of labor time.
Turning off the landline worked very very good

Might look the same but definitely not at all like ma bell's wired self powered phone grid on the simple and reliable tech end.
It is because those are not legal, but annoying calls, most likely from out of the country. Maybe 3 years or so ago, I came home and my voice mail message light was blinking and when I tried to check my message, there was nothing there. The caller ID said that the call was from Chase Bank. Since I have a Chase Visa (my Amazon Prime card) and is the primary card that I use for most everything, I was concerned as they have called me before when they detected suspicious activity on my card. So, I just hit the "call back" button and sure enough Chase fraud line answered. I told them that I had received a call from them while out and was calling to see why they had called me. They had not called me, and they told me that there were calls being made from Asia showing their number as well as other banks' numbers and trying to get CC numbers for fraud purposes. So, the next time I got like that I answered and it was the "...this is Alice and we have detected ....blah, blah, blah...and press 1 for help. I knew this was a fraudulent call but played along and pressed 1 and this heavily accented voice came on the line and went through the whole spiel about detecting fraudulent activity...blah, blah, blah and if you will verify your CC # for me, I will assist you. At this point I said to him that if he expected me to tell him my CC # he was as stupid as he was hoping that I was and hung up. At this point I contacted my phone carrier to see if there was something they could do about blocking it...they said, yes, they could block it but the number showing and that would be blocked is actually the Chase Bank # and I chose not to have that blocked as they may really need to call me if there is activity on my card that shouldn't be. I've had that card for about 18 years I think, and it has been replaced twice as there has been attempted unauthorized charges caught because they were able to reach me. I get a call from that number almost daily and of course do not answer it as if it is the real Chase Bank they will leave a message. Just today I got a call with caller ID showing Bank of America...with an authentic BOA phone number on the caller ID...I GOOGLED it...I didn't answer this as these type calls come daily...Citi Bank is another one...I have no business with either BOA or Citi so I know they aren't calling me.

The National Do Not Call Registry is effective in that by registering on it, the ordinary lawful telemarketers don't usually call and if they do and you report it, it is dealt with. I think they are fined, you may get a settlement as well. Also they are a clearing house whereby your can report the calls where the callers commit fraud against unsuspecting people such as the bust on the medical supply people in the earlier post I made.

But, like most things...nothing is 100% fool proof and much like fishing, when you go fishing you don't catch every fish...doesn't mean you aren't an effective fisherman. Or the police don't catch every speeder, but they do catch many.
 
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