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Transgender Indecency

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Students at Flagler County Schools are weighing in on the Obama administration’s guidelines on which bathrooms transgender students should use.

  • U.S. Dept. of Education issued new rules on transgender students and bathroom use last week
  • Counties are weighing what their options are
  • Flagler County says if the government changes the rules, the school district has to comply
Grace Emery has been the voice for the Flagler County student body as a school board member all year long.
"You have to be able to stand up for something," said Emery.
On the graduating senior's final meeting with board members she stood up for students about the transgender restroom issue.
"I've heard from students already. They're just not comfortable with it or they are, either way both ends of the spectrum, it's just a very strong topic," said Emery.
Last week the Department of Education announced new guidelines requiring that schools allow transgender students to use the restroom and locker rooms that correspond to their chosen gender.
"There are kids who are in gym, they're already changing into another outfit with their friends around -- that's embarrassing for some people as it is, without the opposite sex in the room," said Emery.
Flagler Schools Superintendent Jacob Oliva said a lot of the district’s schools have unisex restrooms.
But, he said if the federal government changes their policies, then they have to comply with the law.
"If we receive a mandate that requires us to address our facilities or review our policies, part of the vetting process is to look at our facilities as they exist and ask ourselves, ‘Do we need to update?’" said Oliva.
"It has not been an issue for us, so there's no reason for her or any students to be concerned or fearful," said Chair Colleen Conklin.
But for Emery, who is headed to college soon and won't attend Flagler Schools next year, she wants to make sure her classmates’ voices are heard.
"There are certain things that you do think about when this issue is brought up because it's scary. You don't know what's going to happen," said Emery.
[h=3]Central Florida school districts weighing options[/h] Other school districts in the Central Florida area are looking at what the new rules are and what they have to do.
Marion County is in a unique position because last month it banned transgender students from using the bathrooms associated with the gender they identify with. The county has decided to wait and see what happens in the courts.
The ACLU has filed a civil rights complaint against the district.
A parent in Jacksonville has filed a lawsuit to stop Duval County Public Schools from following the federal rule.

Osceola County says it will continue to work with transgender students and their families on an individual basis.
Orange County says it will follow all federal guidelines.
Brevard County says it will not take any action until it hears from the Florida Dept. of Education.
Lake County says it will deal with the issue on a case-by-case basis.
Seminole County said it was reviewing the new rule.
Volusia County said it will continue to work with students on a case-by-case basis.


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Jeannie

Founder
Unbelievable how people act over things. Where did they think transgenders where going to the bathroom all along.
 

MarcW

New member
Letter to Grace Dolan Sandrino - A reply from a Gay Patriot to a Transgendered Teen:

http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/forums/5546-bear-pit/14802293-letter-to-grace-a-reply-from-a-gay-patriot-to-transgendered-teen


Dear Grace Dolan Sandrino,

Let me start by saying how much I truly admire your courage and sheer determination, and sadly also recognize the years of torment and struggle. Both internally and externally you’ve endured and probably continue to suffer in your struggle to find your own identity and become comfortable in your own skin. “It gets better”, yes but when you’re coming from behind having been given the short end of the stick, does the fight ‘to be’ ever fully end for some of us?

My empathy comes in part because I too, as a gay man from a couple generations ago, have struggled along that same path. I’m from a time though when society was far less accepting than it is now (if you can believe that). We endured hiding our identity, nearly zero public tolerance and even less from the police. These and more made gay bashing, persecution and abuse an acceptable norm.

I tell you this so you will believe that I understand where you’re coming from.

The Orlando massacre was a metaphorical bullet in all our backs. In many ways, it was even worse than Stonewall. Where, as I am sure you are aware, those whom are paid to serve and protect the citizen relentlessly and violently harassed them instead. Orlando has suddenly made it seem like we were reverting to the dark ages. If Orlando sets any precedent it’s that terrorists and nuts jobs are now ramping up their attacks on the most vulnerable, or what they may deem as ‘soft targets’, aiming for maximum damage and attention.

Like you I too am very concerned for our future not only as LGBTs but as Americans and free citizens of this great republic. The divisions we sometimes face can seem insurmountable, the hate and persecution can be staggering and at best difficult to endure. Any suggested resolutions seem hardly adequate and difficult to attain, and in order to do what? Come to some all too fragile, flimsy and imperfect agreement?

Obviously not facing the divisions and pretending they do not exist is not an option. So trudge on we must, knowing that mistakes will be made and therefore we must remember to try to remain open-minded, adaptable and determined to fight for equality. We must also understand that there will never be that perfect solution that makes everyone happy.

While I couldn’t agree more with your take on “those bigoted and ridiculous bathroom bills” and “common sense guns bills” I can only agree so long as those ‘common sense’ bills do NOT infringe on the rights of responsible, good and caring gun owning citizens.

You see I am first an American and second a Gay man. My fundamental ‘rights’ are a birthright as a human being and are protected by the Constitution. The bottom line is that without the liberties and natural rights listed and protected by the Constitution I (we) will never have or keep any rights as Americans, much less as LGBT persons. So no matter my race, gender, orientation or sexual preference the Constitution for any true American should come first.

Just as important as the Constitution is as a whole, so is the Second Amendment. It is that which guarantees me the right to protect myself and my family from any threat, whether from criminals or tyrannical government. The Second Amendment, the right to keep and bear arms for the protection of self and family, is the ONE right and freedom in the Constitution that insures every other freedom we as citizen hold dear. Therefore it is without doubt and without question the most important Constitutional Amendment of them all. It is the very cornerstone of our entire republic. Any bill or law that inhibits that God given liberty, that natural birthright as a human being, can only be taken as being anti-America.

And yet in spite of this inherent right none of the people in Orlando could protect themselves. Not one person ever really had a chance. Why, because not one of them had a gun, not a single one (I’d bet my last dollar every one of them wished for one). And so, disarmed by the very laws they were told would protect them, they were “like lambs to the slaughter.” I would have much rather had the chance to #shootback. I would have given my life to protect my family, my friends and citizens. I would have much rather faced the evil than cower in fear and hope for a savior in blue. Wouldn’t have you? Wouldn’t you have risked your own life and pulled the trigger to save your mother, your lover, your friend, an innocent stranger? I strongly suspect you would have.

The more we focus on pointing fingers and trying to blame each other the more it divides us and continues the erosion of our rights. The more distractions that are thrown about such as what types of firearms are ‘acceptable’ the more the issues are confused and muddled. The result is the slow and methodical disarming of the people.

Case in point, the very rifle they’re intent on vilifying and outlawing is precisely the best rifle we have to protect ourselves.

The more we become complacent and falsely dependent on a government that cannot, and almost never will be, there in time to stop the crazies whether they are terrorist groups, lone wolf, or your average psycho nut job the greater the chance is we may face the peril first hand and empty handed. Add to that ‘Warren vs. DC’ –in short: “Police Have No Duty to Protect Individuals…”(!)

Criminals will always find a way to get guns. If not guns, then bombs, if not bombs, then fires, or poison, or cars as weapons. The list is endless and grows as our technology grows. Those that want mass death and casualties will figure out a way to hit soft targets. Happyland Nightclub is one example that comes to mind, 84 dead with nothing more than gasoline.

‘For the people by the people’ does not mean a Government that disarms the people to me. No, in fact ‘for the people by the people’ means EXACTLY the opposite. It means we must exercise the right to come together, to protect one another, ourselves, our family our friends. It means we must finally realize that we cannot wait for the cops to come. We must learn how to stand up for ourselves. We must take back the right to responsible carry of firearms and then be ever vigilant. Those willing to answer the call of being a true American be they LGBT, Straight, Black, White, Latin, Asian, Et al. must train ourselves to use firearms safely and responsibly. We must also learn how to assess the situation and act accordingly.

It is our duty as a free people and as citizens, we are required to act ‘for the people by the people.’ In fact it is training that government should be required to offer to any law abiding citizen who is willing to stand in defense of their fellow citizens. Law abiding citizens should have access to free and thorough training done by qualified, certified professionals.

As important as all of the above is we must never forget that we are a product of our history and all the freedoms protected by the Constitution are as vital today as they were at the beginning during the American Revolution. The threats we face to our liberties today may be even greater than those of the past as they are more subversive, clandestine and cloaked in the guise of 'progress' and the greater good. Should we forget why we fought the American Revolution, why so many were willing to sacrifice their fortunes, their property and their very lives we will be doomed to repeat it or be lost forever.

At the end of the day we must remember it is not about fear, it’s about freedom and the preservation of liberty. It’s about freedom of speech, freedom of expression, the right to defend my family and myself and the fundamental right to self-determination. Should, God forbid, the event ever come to pass that I need to do so I will protect my family, myself and others first and worry about the consequences later.

Former Chief of LAPD Ed Davis said it best, "Citizens arm yourselves, the police cannot protect you".

Marc W. Director
www.GaysWithGuns.la

Bunny K. Transitioning M to F
www.GaysWithGuns.la

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PinkPistols.org and GayswithGuns.la are social groups primarily about helping anyone to learn responsible and safe use of firearms for the use of self-defense and recreation.

Gays With Guns also promotes the political goal of reversing the restrictive, prohibitive and extremely unconstitutional concealed weapon permit process.
 

rhweir

Member
For once in my life, I'm confused. I agree with "Is that the number that have had the surgeries done?? Or just those who think they are?"
It's kind of like, is you or is you not?
 

sundealer

Founder
Those that have TRANSformed through the surgeries are transgender.
IMO those just wearing the clothes of the opposite sex and saying they are trans, are not.
True story.
In OK back in 82, there were these 2 gentlemen who loved wearing women's clothing. Some of the outfits should have been on a red carpet in Hollywood! They were asked if they want to be women since they dressed that way. I'll never forget what one of them said. "Honey, why would I want to be a woman? I'm a man who LOVES men!! Don't let the clothes fool you!"
 

WVaKay

Well-known member
Wikpedia Definition of Transgender: Transgender people are people who have a gender identity, or gender expression, that differs from their assigned sex. Transgender people are sometimes called transsexuals if they desire medical assistance to transition from one sex to another.
 

rhweir

Member
You is what you is born...and that a fact Jack or Jacqueline. Learn it, love it and live with it. We have become one decadent spoiled society.
 

WNDB

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DeLand, FL – Parents, teachers, and residents are expected to join Indivisible DeLand and members of the ACLU in a show of support for Transgender rights and the LGBGTQ+ community at Tuesday night’s Volusia County School Board meeting. Volusia County never put the Obama administration’s federal guidelines into effect, but those gathering at the February […]

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There are between 1,320 and 6,630 transgender troops currently in U.S. military uniform, according to a RAND Corp. study. However, a legal challenge was filed by the Department of Justice in July, the purpose of [...]

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WNDB

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Volusia County, FL – A new lawsuit claims the Volusia County School Board discriminated against a 15-year-old transgender high school student by repeatedlystopping him from using male restrooms and locker rooms at school. According to the lawsuit and plaintiff John Doe, being forced to use single-stall bathrooms and locker rooms caused unnecessary suffering and violated […]

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KathyInAR

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Staff member
The lack of compassion shown for a child in pain is regrettable and disgusting, regardless of the cause. Speaks volumes to the character of the hateful bigot.
 

WizardMaster

In The Pokey
The School Board owns you whether you like it or not! If they say they need more money from the tax payer, they're getting more money from the tax payer. If they tell you to go pee in the corner, you're going to go pee in the corner. If they tell you that you are a FEMALE cause you have a vagina, you're a female because you have a vagina. I'm sure the school board didn't stand at each and every bathroom door to stop this girl from entering the boys room to tinkle. It must have been the children who use the bathrooms they need to use who felt very uncomfortable and told the administration about this.

YOU cannot blame a 'straight/normal' child for not wanting to be in the same bathroom with someone knowingly of the opposite sex even though that person of your opposite sex claims to be a boy just like you now. IF I was a doctor and an injured patient came before me on the table and I saw a vagina..... Do you think I'm going to run around asking the gender of my patient?? HELL NO!

They should build a UNISEX bathroom just like they have at other medical facilities, etc. where you may have to knock on the door to see if it's occupied. In case anyone didn't know this, it is a restroom for ONE person at a time of either sex. I suggest schools do this so NOBODY from either side feels uncomfortable in the restroom. No, I don't think this lawsuit is what it seems. I suspect they, (transgenders)want to attempt to make their mark in history and you will see how this plays out. The 'real' boys in the 'boys restroom' who feel uncomfortable with someone they know who has female genitalia that now claims to be a male, that feels very uncomfortable because of it.........WINS! They had better win, it's their restroom and they cannot go to a females restroom. What IF some time that same 'girl/now a boy w/ a vagina' enters a restroom and confronts a bully who was waiting for him/her and is raped?? I predict that will happen some day. How about the 30 year old man who claims to be a female and enters a ladies restroom at the grocery store where your 12 year old daughter is at the moment? Too many scenarios to go through!

Can't wait for the boys who now claim to be girls that want to enter the restrooms with your daughters start lawsuits because it isn't permitted. I see that coming soon now. I can see on applications now this question> What sex were you at birth? What sex do you claim to me currently? I know, it's a big friggin' mess! BUILD THE DAMN UNISEX RESTROOM ALREADY!!!!!
 

WNDB

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Tallahassee, FL –Accusing them of ignorance and bigotry, a federal judge this week excoriated Florida corrections officials for refusing to accommodate a transgender inmate, despite the prisoner’s repeated suicide attempts and persistent requests to wear bras and panties and to have access to women’s grooming items. U.S. District Judge Mark Walker on Wednesday ordered the […]

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ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
women’s undergarments and groom as a woman
Hair length and undergarments, Those are social constructs are they not?
I completely disagree with special privileges allocated to minorities.
There is simply two types of reproductive organs and the physical is all that the law can address.
I detest that the convolution of "rights" lead to the United States of America financing the sex change of Bradley Manning, and it was an absolutely valid reason to reject transgender from military service on that merit alone.
 

Flagler Live

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She wasn't allowed to use the girls' bathroom. She had shoes thrown at her head when she wore leggings and lacy tops. She endured public school teachers making the sign of the cross and running off when she walked between classes.

The post All I Want For Mother’s Day Is Equality For My Transgender Child appeared first on FlaglerLive.
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ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
Excuse me, I do not wish to be associated with this bullshit LGBTQIA Basket, very little of the current Agenda of those who wish to use this label is in my interest or represents my beliefs, morals or identity.
I can not reconcile how a child who can not consent can Identify as a different biological entity and be given drugs that cause irreversible changes as an adult.
Non conformity to gender stereotypes used to be called tomboys and sissies, we moved past that straight into the loony bin. let kids be kids and Stop guiding your biological-boy who likes to play with frilly things into believing that means he wants to cut off his penis.
 

ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
I Just wanted to Clarify that I do not believe that we should allow bullying and abuse of any kids who are targeted. however they choose to dress or express themselves within the boundaries of decency. I don't think it's a good idea for all but some documented medical reasons to be encouraged by adults to pursue life changing development. I recognize there are children who have identified genetic anomalies that early hormone therapy may be the best treatment. My push back is the trivialized encouragement that is lending to abuse by fad seekers and abusers with other mental issues that probably should be investigated before they are accepted onto certain activities like traditional gender athletic titles. And schools need to treat gender dysfunction separately from fads fashion and abuse potential. It's an Alarming notion that the number of people that have suddenly become identified as nontraditional sex, If those affected have increased in recent decades by exponential numbers we may be in a natural genetic cycle that checks overdencity, I'm open to a discussion about that and how we adjust social parameters to accommodate, but it has to be normalized honestly and with greater caution against abuses.
 

ROOT

Administrator
Staff member
I am not onboard with this, I think they make a clear case for undue influence and these two are not a case for normalizing the sexualization of children. sociopath Michael Alig, who was convicted of dismembering a person and tossing them in the river. The Rohypn on that painting is also disturbing. This video gave me super creepy feelings that this kid is susceptible to abuse he has been groomed to find perfectly acceptable and he would hide it from the "bad people" who don't understand the tenants of

This makes me angry
"Party Monster" Michael Alig says he's trying to reinvent himself. In 1996, the club promoter and his roommate Robert "Freeze" Riggs killed acquaintance, Andre "Angel" Melendez. They cut up Melendez's body and threw it in the Hudson River. They also talked openly about the killing in an effort, he now says, to put the burden on someone else. "I know that nothing I ever do is going to erase the past,"
 
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Amber Coakley

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OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 10:12 AM PT — Wednesday, June 5, 2019


President Trump recently spoke out on his support for LGBTQ rights, while still defending his stance on banning transgender people from serving in the military.

In an interview that aired Wednesday, British commentator Piers Morgan pressed the president on why he felt the need to enforce that ban after recently tweeting about protecting the LGBTQ community.

In response the president, said it was because transgender people take massive amounts of drugs” after their operation, which is not allowed in the military. He then claimed many service members were joining the military requesting operations, but then taking time off for recovery.


FILE PHOTO – Members of the U.S. Army march on 5th Avenue during a parade in N.Y. (Photo/REUTERS/Carlo Allegri)

“You have to have a standard and you have to stick by that standard — we have a great military and I want to keep it that way,” stated the president. “And maybe they would be phenomenal, I think they probably would be, but, again, you have very strict rules and regulations on drugs and prescription drugs and all of these different things.”

While the president’s policy was met by a string of lawsuits from LGBTQ advocacy groups, the transgender troop ban still took effect in April.

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Flagler Live

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The Supreme Court’s ruling will have a drastic material impact on the millions of transgender people living in the United States. Allowing this discrimination to continue will threaten many more with unemployment and economic hardship.

The post Don’t Leave Gender Equality or Definition to the Supreme Court appeared first on FlaglerLive.
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Shanon Peckham

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif., center, is followed by members of media as she leaves the House Chamber after announcing that the House votes 232-196 to pass resolution on impeachment procedure to move forward into the next phase of the impeachment inquiry into President Trump on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Oct. 31, 2019. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 8:05 PM PT — Saturday, November 2, 2019


The impeachment inquiry is in full swing and Democrats are reportedly taking advantage of the opportunity to pass a whole host of new bills. The legislation is focused on controversial issues such as religious freedom, gun rights, and tax increases.

The biggest measure under fire is the Equality Act of 2019, which was passed by the House in May. The bill seeks to achieve legal equality for the LGBTQ community under federal civil rights legislation. This means if the act is implemented, sexual orientation would be treated as the same as race in the eyes of the law.


Supporters of the LGBT gather in front of the U.S. Supreme Court, Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2019, in Washington. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

Conservatives have noted the threat it poses to medical practices and religious freedom.

“This law — for the very first time — specifically says you cannot use the Religious Freedom Restoration Act as a claim or defense,” stated Liberty Counsel Chairman Mathew Staver. “It literally guts religious freedom.”

The Equality Act would reportedly force hospitals and insurers to provide and pay for therapies against medical objections.

“The Equality Act would create the opportunity for anyone who identifies as transgender to sue doctors who don’t prescribe the hormonal treatment or perform the surgical interventions,” explained Heritage Foundation attorney Emilie Kao. “It would create incredible pressure on the medical profession.”

The bill reportedly could also lead to the dismantling of gender-only spaces, such as public bathrooms and sex-specific sports. There are concerns it could possibly shut down numerous faith-based charities and adoption agencies as well.


FILE – In this Aug. 15, 2012 file photo, three variations of the AR-15 rifle are displayed at the California Department of Justice in Sacramento, Calif. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli, File)

Another hotly contested bill is allegedly aiming to restrict the Second Amendment. House Democrats are seeking to enact the Assault Weapons Ban of 2019 to regulate assault weapons, enhance, background checks and strengthen red flag procedures.

Lawmakers are also debating the Medicare for All Act of 2019, which was first introduced in February. The bill aims to improve Medicare coverage and provide comprehensive health care plans nationwide. Reports claimed the Medicare for All Act is broader and could be implemented more quickly than the Medicare plan put forth by Senator Bernie Sanders. Funding for the bill and its future has yet to be discussed.

Other legislation that has been introduced amid the impeachment inquiry includes a bill seeking to dissolve the Electoral College, a measure authorizing pay raises for federal workers and the federal Green New Deal.

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